“hold off, So is this a Date?” Podcast Episode 104: Sexting or Something adore it | Autostraddle

What comes after DM slides? Sexting! Or if you’re me personally discover like six even more steps. Nonetheless all of our primary subject recently is sexting and we also’re accompanied by certainly my personal really preferred article writers:
Kayla Kumari Upadhyaya
.

We start off with a game of Sapho or Drew’s 2014 Journal prior to getting into every particulars of sextual connections. We’re speaking tenses, we’re chatting instigation, we are talking pictures — like the huge probabilities of the Live picture. This week our immediate communication is additionally hotter than normal!


PROGRAM RECORDS

+ Unfortunately, you should be Kayla’s girlfriend observe the woman ability as a copywriter via sext, but anyone can review her writing skills in fiction. Here’s certainly one of my favorite stories by their:

Area Games

.

+ we have been requesting a lesbian Grindr as evidenced by
this article
from B Nichols circa 2011.

+ And by
this podcast occurrence
with Shelli using this year.

+ Apparently Scissr
generated the protector
before their ill-fated release.

+ I really questioned Mae Martin twice. After
period one
and after
season two
.

+ ok I am just confused exactly how

The Huntsman: Winter’s War

isn’t homosexual?? I am talking about, check this out picture:



Drew:

Are you currently carrying out character performs from a situation of, “You’re touching me right now” or, “I wish you were holding myself?” Exactly what tense tend to be we in?


Kayla:

Yeah, I became likely to ask exactly the same question really, for the reason that it’s something which’s always fascinating in my opinion, specially even though we are all article authors in addition.


Christina:

I happened to be probably say several writers. Exactly what tight tend to be we in, exactly how tend to be we feeling? Is it a detailed next? What is going on right here?


Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew!


Christina:

I Am Christina!


Drew:

And thank you for visiting

Hold Off, Is It A Night Out Together?


Christina:


Wait, So Is This A Romantic Date

is an Autostraddle podcast focused on the untamed and insane field of online dating.


Drew:

Queer internet dating.


Christina:

You said some thing wild. I was probably present myself again but i am happy you mentioned queer dating, i do believe which in fact is actually an improved change.


Drew:

But kindly queer, expose your self.


Christina:

As Drew talked about, I am Queer, I go by Christina, periodically. I am an author at Autostraddle, a queer on the web that is often deranged and after this i’ve been ingesting a bag of M&Ms, only a Ziploc bag of M&Ms all day. I actually do feel lightly sick, but that’s the bet I made a decision to get.


Drew:

I think it may sound worth it?


Christina:

Yeah, I’m feeling good about it. There’s only M&Ms in right here and Whiteclaw.


Drew:

Cool.


Christina:

Let us journey on. Who are you?


Drew:

Successful combination. I am Drew Gregory, I am additionally an author at Autostraddle where I do lots of movie coverage also mention online dating, queer dating. I’m in addition a filmmaker and a trans lesbian.


Christina:

Hot. Crazy and hot.


Drew:

Yeah. I additionally spent the weekend using my family for the first time because pandemic. Therefore, this is where i am entering this podcast occurrence from that headspace and fun.


Christina:

Yes. that is a really interesting fuel to bring in, i am happy which you have it. We now have a game title, according to usual, to relax and play.


Drew:

Sure. Yes, we do.


Christina:

Following we’re going to have our very own major discussion with the unique secret visitor, who you do not get understand just who it’s however, audience.


Drew:

Yeah. And our topic recently is sexting.


Christina:

Blah! That’s how I experience sexting, we will enter it.


Drew:

Right.


Christina:

Let us start. Why don’t we begin this game!


Drew:

Cool, you appear super comfy. Okay. So, the very last time that we created a casino game, it had been to roast you, Christina.


Christina:

Yes, that is me personally.


Drew:

Therefore, I imagined that this few days i’d present a casino game to roast my self.


Christina:

Oh, fascinating.


Drew:

Yeah. Thus, the name of this video game will be the very creatively named “Sappho or Drew’s 2014 Journal?” So, i’ll end up being saying some quotes and you’re planning let me know if you feel the estimate is by Sappho or by me personally in 2014. I will offer some context if you need, or we can simply jump right in.


Christina:

Nope, I get it. Let us roll.


Drew:

Great. Okay. So, basic quotation is actually: “driving a car of demise is definitely worries of time.”


Christina:

Fuck. This can be likely to be harder than I imagined. I’ll say, I will say that’s you.


Drew:

It’s myself. Great work. Okay. The second one: “Once again, love drives me personally in.”


Christina:

Tend to be these gonna be both? That feels as though maybe it’s both.


Drew:

No. that could be fantastic but no, not one of them are both.


Christina:

Okay. Very, then again, I simply must claim that definitely Drew.


Drew:

No, which is Sappho.


Christina:

Really, that’s Drew power.


Drew:

Yeah. There’s lots of these being, they’re nearly all Drew energy, and apparently all Sappho energy.


Christina:

No. Yeah. I get the overall game, looks like.


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

Okay. “I don’t know how to proceed, my personal thoughts are split.”


Christina:

Sappho.


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

Yes. I am fist moving.


Drew:

Yeah, fist pump out.


Christina:

Thank you.


Drew:

“the woman hair is since silver since the mirror she keeps also it passes the whole way down her back.”


Christina:

Sappho.


Drew:

No, which is me.


Christina:

Drew! Wow, all right.


Drew:

“I’m not likely to talk but I nod and reply to the woman touch.”


Christina:

Drew.


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

“i have to experience.”


Christina:

Again, Sappho but i’d like it to be both.


Drew:

Truly Sappho.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

“Life simply end up being so diligent.”


Christina:

Drew?


Drew:

Uh-huh (affirmative), you’re performing really well as of this. I want you to find out that I attempted this from several friends and failed, like statistically did worse than they need to have, so that you’re eliminating it up to now. Okay. “She slid her hands-down my personal back and through my personal tresses and I started undertaking the same to the lady, quickly we had been kissing.”


Christina:

Sappho?


Drew:

No, that’s me.


Christina:

Locks are a motif for you personally, clocking that.


Drew:

Oh, yeah. Consider that. “You will find perhaps not had one-word from their. Frankly, If only we were dead.”


Christina:

Drew?


Drew:

No, which is Sappho.


Christina:

Deleting my membership. Sappho.


Drew:

Yeah. “You emerged and that I had been longing for you.”


Christina:

Ooh, Sappho.


Drew:

Yeah. “I want to state some thing but shame prevents me.”


Christina:

Drew.


Drew:

No, that is Sappho.


Christina:

But things had been generated, In my opinion by me personally.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

Yeah.


Drew:

Definitely.


Christina:

Definitely.


Drew:

I do believe which is the most myself of them, and that is fantastic because gay shame has just already been happening for millennia.


Christina:

Yeah. Untold millennia, it really is element of our very own community and tradition. Hot.


Drew:

“There is the artist and there is the girl examining by herself, outside, interior, who is she?”


Christina:

Which Is Drew.


Drew:

It’s.


Christina:

Yeah. Is that 14-year-old Drew?


Drew:

No, no, no. 2014 me personally. Thus, this is yeah. Very, this will be all from my personal journal. So, which was really me journaling in a museum and that I was merely very struck by painting, because who willn’t journle in museums?


Christina:

Have you been homosexual?


Drew:

I would be homosexual.


Christina:

You are gay. If for example the children are journaling in museums they might be gay, merely an email.


Drew:

Everyone else should know about that I found myself not-out of this dresser during the time so, it had been totally simply, thought I was a right man.


Christina:

Vibing.


Drew:

Yes. Vibing certainly. Okay, some more. “you’ll have thoughts caused by that which we performed back then once we happened to be brand new during that.”


Christina:

Sappho.


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

Yes. I am so great.


Drew:

You’re undertaking very well. Okay. “we just move together and move apart the remnants of the most useful interests lingering given that then fantastic passion comes up.”


Christina:

Drew.


Drew:

Yeah. I wasn’t maintaining rating nevertheless’ve gotten most of these.


Christina:

Yeah, i am in addition now regretting maybe not keeping score. I’d have hated if we had been maintaining rating and I also ended up being performing defectively, but now that I Am succeeding, I Am like, what—


Drew:

I’ll state you have nine right.


Christina:

Okay. That sounds like a large number.


Drew:

Yeah. Okay. Here is the last one.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

It’s a truly difficult one though. Okay?


Christina:

I’ve reached get 10.


Drew:

Yeah. Okay. Ready? “we woke upwards this morning with a large pimple needs to form in epidermis between my personal eyebrows every day before my personal big date, naturally.”


Christina:

I will point out that’s Drew.


Drew:

Its. Large surprise, big shock.


Christina:

Huge surprise, big shock. Sappho had not been allowing you in to the zits of her life, unfortuitously.


Drew:

Well, thanks a lot plenty for playing.


Christina:

Wow. Which was so fun.


Drew:

I am hoping you learned lots about me personally, or learned absolutely nothing about me personally.


Christina:

I believe We discovered, personally discovered that my understanding of you is correct and this our company is buddies. And that I think’s a fantastic thing for me to master.


Drew:

Yeah. I was going right on through a separation during this time, it had been rough.


Christina:

Yeah, don’t look perhaps not harsh, we’ll claim that, don’t appear gentle, perhaps we’re able to state?


Drew:

I survived, and performed Sappho, really in the course of time she died but, you understand


Christina:

Sure, sure, yes. Do you want to fairly share our very own major subject? Do you think we are mentally there?


Drew:

Oh, my personal God, I’m thus ready.


Christina:

I am prepared, once again, accomplish most reading, this is gonna be a listen and learn space for my situation and that I’m actually grateful that people have actually this type of a visitor who’s very brilliant and thoughtful and, i do believe, a specialist inside the realm of sexting.


Drew:

Oh, I consent. Kayla, want to present yourself?


Kayla:

Yes. I’m Kayla Kumari Upadhyaya, I am in addition an author at Autostraddle and in other places on the internet, yeah.


Christina:

Sexting specialist, sextpert.


Kayla:

And sexting expert. Yes.


Christina:

Yes. I will be getting that in most of resources going forward.


Kayla:

Its an essential element of my personal CV.


Christina:

Sure. Yes. We like to respect a CV here.


Drew:

Needs people in the home, or wherever you are paying attention to this, to find out that, I don’t know, per month ago I texted Kayla to inquire about for advice on what it’s always satisfy somebody when you’ve been having an internet courtship, whatever, and Kayla, I became wishing all of this mental help, etc, et cetera. And Kayla had been like, Oh, we simply sexted. I happened to be like, started using it, started using it, first got it. Okay, cool. Cool, cool.


Kayla:

Yeah, it wasn’t that deep, I guess at the beginning.


Christina:

I think which is actually an attractive, only a fantastic method of framing things. Circumstances we can always deliver a Drew/perhaps Sappho point of view to circumstances. It would possibly often be very strong, but sometimes it may start around not that deep and get deep, that’s truly gorgeous. I want everybody around to remember that breathtaking thing.


Drew:

Yeah. Very, what’s your own relationship to sexting? Maybe you’ve usually enjoyed it? Could it possibly be always been something’s, features it created with time your own comfortability with it?


Kayla:

Yeah. What i’m saying is, In my opinion used to do always adore it, I found myselfn’t sexting right up a storm during my, I don’t know, like in school or something, After all, is reasonable, I was significantly closeted. And so, my personal dating and sexual history had been all-kind of in pretty bad shape for a while but once I did emerge, i’d say yes, that sexting was actually something I found myself into nearly at once and part of it, i do believe is simply becoming a former Tumblr child slightly. I was simply used to linking with folks in that way, online, over book or whatever. I would completed that for a long time, this only felt extremely organic in my experience, particularly since I hadn’t got plenty of intercourse and material. Very, it virtually thought simpler in the beginning following i recently discovered that we liked it, and it carried on, and yeah. But then there seemed to be a long period of time where i did not really think about sexting much, it absolutely was within my finally union following when that commitment finished in a fairly remarkable method, all of a sudden there was clearly this period of time in which I found myself sexting always, the person who, each time, anywhere.


Christina:

Only “You upwards?” constantly.


Kayla:

Exactly. It actually was a steady stream. Yeah. That’s my personal quest with sexting, I guess. It’s not many, a large amount, maybe not a large number once more.


Christina:

Peaks and valleys.


Kayla:

Exactly.


Drew:

When you’re sexting, would you mostly, really does which means that delivering photos to you personally or will it mean filthy talk book texting sexting?


Kayla:

Yeah…


Christina:

That has been a question I really have for both of you, because You will find problems delineating thereon front side.


Kayla:

Yeah, i believe that, that’s a thing that varies person to person because personally I usually, its a multimedia knowledge. There is the messages, there is the photos, you may have i suppose that’s all, i am aware many people would audio message type things, I’m much less into that, In my opinion.


Christina:

You’re not giving a VR lens or any such thing, there’s really no Oculus happening?


Kayla:

I’d like a 4D knowledge.


Christina:

Yeah.


Kayla:

No. It really is practically merely texts and photos but I am not necessarily expecting that in return, i assume, is exactly what i’d state usually, I like to utilize pictures but I’m not like, “Now I need photographs!’


Christina:

Yeah, “Pics or it didn’t occur!”


Kayla:

Precisely. I’m not sure about yourself, Drew.


Drew:

Yeah. I am talking about, I feel like I’ll perform both but typically at differing times. Personally I think like while I’m sending photos, i am picture ready and that does not just suggest, I’m not sure, appropriate everything is trimmed and shaved and etc, etc, but additionally merely spiritually, I think its an alternate fuel that i want to be able to book sext versus send images sext, and I have no idea. I also feel just like a lot of times regarding sending images, i believe We commonly carry out more of, this is for — not for all of us, but for like 20 people on my close friends or whatever, rather than giving it especially to someone. That is a lot more for, if I’m in a relationship, I’ll deliver sensuous photographs but Really don’t usually deliver pictures to a person that i am freshly online dating or enthusiastic about, but i shall a lot more book. In addition think i am much better at, I am not sure, like I’m an author a lot better than I’m a photographer?


Christina:

Definitely, yeah. That’s true.


Drew:

So, I believe like i really could with confidence claim that i am pretty good at texting side of sexting.


Christina:

Yeah, I would personally believe of you. That seems like one thing, a skill set you’ll have.


Drew:

Yeah. But I mostly merely accomplish that if I’ve had intercourse with somebody before. I don’t—


Kayla:

Really?


Drew:

Yeah…


Christina:

Okay. Therefore, interesting, fascinating.


Drew:

Really, absolutely two. Both, i’ll do so with someone that I’ve had sex with before or exactly who I really don’t believe that I will ever before have sexual intercourse with.


Christina:

Oh, okay. Yes. Okay.


Drew:

Eg, We have sexted with people who will be, I am not sure, exactly who slid into my DMS and inhabit, I don’t know, there is a person that lived in Paris who had been talking to me personally during the pandemic and that I ended up being like, “its a pandemic. You Are Living on a special region, this is so that maybe not real—


Kayla:

The stakes are reduced.


Drew:

Yeah, like whatever. And when someday we met, fantastic, however it don’t feel — I wasn’t dating this person, but We have take off whenever situations started initially to relocate that path with all the person who i am almost matchmaking in Canada in which it really feels as though, “Oh, at some point i’ll have sexual intercourse using this individual, most likely.” So the majority of sexting for me in book is based on the thing I understand person is into, and everything we’ve accomplished together or the thing I believe they will wish us to do, and I merely feel basically haven’t really had gender with all the person—


Christina:

Needed that standard experience.


Drew:

In my opinion therefore.


Christina:

And after that you wish to convert that in to the texting area.


Drew:

Yeah, I Believe very.


Christina:

Interesting.


Kayla:

Yeah, after all, i am the complete reverse. I am trying to imagine a case where I didn’t carry out the precise inverse of this. I have always, if I ended up being regularly sexting with somebody, it had been sexting occurred for a while before we in fact had gender, and I really practically use it as a chance and figure out what they can be into.


Christina:

Appropriate, you are delivering your learn information inside real area sooner or later.


Kayla:

Yes.


Christina:
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